Writing To Further Animal Welfare

We already have 6 rescue cats and could easily have many more as there are thousands of feral and abandoned cats in Spain but how do you deal with this difficult and emotive problem?

Juan Antonio, one of our six rescued cats

Juan Antonio, one of our six rescued cats

People love having kittens but very rarely have them neutered, resulting in an increasing population and a lot of welfare groups trying to deal with the ones that are not wanted.

Where I live the official method of control by the local authorities is to catch the stray/feral cats and destroy them.

The Trap Neuter and Release system works by trapping feral cats checking to see they are healthy and have no transmittable diseases, neutering them and releasing them back to the place they were trapped following up with health care and supplementary feed.

The idea is that by doing this a stable sustainable healthy population of cats remains. If you simply take all the cats from an area and kill them a vacuum is produced which is then populated by more feral cats and the cycle continues.

WTFAW is considering starting a trial project here in Southern Spain and would be interested to hear the views of its readers on this as there are strong views for and against the practice.

Please let us know your views on this.

Thanks

Paul Svendsen

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Comments on: "Is TNR (Trap Neuter Release) good or bad?" (14)

  1. Pamela Kerr said:

    This is a great idea. I help at a dog refuge, we are trying to get every dog sterilised before being adopted. The president of the refuge is feeding feral cats close to where she lives, she said this system would be very welcome.

  2. Here’s how these delusional, self-serving, and uneducated TNR-advocates are destroying all life on the planet.

    The TNR CON-GAME

    FACT: Trap & Kill failed because cats cannot be trapped faster than they exponentially breed out of control.

    FACT: Trap, Neuter, & Re-Abandon (TNR) is an even bigger abject failure because these man-made ecological disasters cannot be trapped faster than they exponentially breed out of control, and they also continue to cruelly annihilate all native wildlife (from the smallest of prey up to the top predators that are starved to death), and the cats continue to spread many deadly diseases that they carry today — FOR WHICH THERE ARE NO VACCINES AGAINST THEM. Many of which are even listed as bioterrorism agents. (Such as Tularemia and The Plague — Yes, people have already died from cat-transmitted plague in the USA. No fleas nor rats even required. The cats themselves carry and transmit the plague all on their own.)

    FACT: THERE IS ABSOLUTELY _NOTHING_ HUMANE ABOUT TNR. Nearly every last TNR’ed cat dies an inhumane death by road-kill, from cat and animal attacks, environmental poisons, starvation, dehydration, freezing to death, infections, parasites, etc. And if very very lucky humanely shot to death or re-trapped and drowned (the two most common methods employed on all farms and ranches to protect their gestating livestock’s offspring and valuable native wildlife dying from cats’ Toxoplasmosis parasites). This doesn’t begin to count the thousands of defenseless native animals that cats skin alive and disembowel alive for their daily and hourly play-toys. The only difference in destroying cats immediately and humanely instead of trapping, sterilizing, then releasing them to an inhumane death; is that money isn’t going into an HSUS or SPCA board-member’s pocket, veterinarian’s pocket, cat-food company CEO’s pocket, or a drug-company CEO’s pocket. And that’s the ONLY difference!

    FACT: These manipulative, deceptive, and deceitful TNR proponents are now clipping cats ears ONLY. WITHOUT vaccinations nor sterilizing them. They do this to save money and protect their outdoor hoarded cat colonies from being trapped and euthanized by the state because the clipped-ear shows officials that they have been sterilized and vaccinated. Why pay $140 for each cat and all that time when just a trap and a simple snip of scissors on each one can also protect their cats from being destroyed? (I have absolute proof of this.)

    FACT: Cats are a man-made (through selective breeding) invasive species. And as such, are no less of a man-made environmental disaster than any other caused by man. Cats are even worse than an oil-spill of continent-sized proportions. They not only kill off rare and endangered marine-mammals along all coastlines from run-off carrying cats’ Toxoplasma gondii parasites, they destroy the complete food-chain in every ecosystem where cats are found. From smallest of prey gutted and skinned alive for cats’ tortured play-toys, up to the top predators that are starved to death from cats destroying their ONLY food sources. (Precisely what cats caused on my own lands not long ago.)

    FACT: Hunted To Extinction (or in this case, extirpation of all outdoor cats) is the ONLY method that is faster than a species like cats can exponentially out-breed and out-adapt to. Especially a man-made invasive species like these cats that can breed 2X-4X’s faster than any naturally occurring cat-species.

    FACT: In _FOURTEEN_YEARS_ Alley Cat ALL-LIES of NYC have only reduced feral cats in their own city by 0.08% to 0.024% (as the months go on that percentage becomes more insignificant), allowing more than 99.92% to 99.976% to exponentially breed out of control. Here’s how Alley-Cat-ALL-LIES’ deceptive math works: If you TNR 4 cats and 3 get flattened by cars this translates to 75% fewer feral-cats everywhere. Alley Cat ALL-LIES can’t even reduce cats in their own city, yet they promote it as a worldwide solution. Then even bigger fools fall for it and promote it.

    FACT: When researching over 100 of the most “successful” TNR programs worldwide, JUST ONE trapped more than 0.4%. Oregon’s 50,000 TNR’ed cats (the highest rate I found) is 4.9% of all ferals in their state. Yet, by applying population growth calculus on the unsterilized 95.1% they will have trapped only 0.35% of all cats in their state sometime this year. Less than 0.4% is a far cry from the required 75%-85% to be the least bit effective.

    FACT: Their mythical “vacuum effect” is a 100% LIE. A study done by the Texas A&M University proved that any perceived “vacuum” is just the simple case that CATS ATTRACT CATS. Get rid of them all and there’s no cats there to attract more. I proved this myself by shooting and burying hundreds of them on my own lands. ZERO cats replaced them FOR NEARLY FOUR YEARS NOW. If you want more cats, keep even one of them around, more will find you. That university study also found that sterilized cats very poorly defend any territory. Non-sterilized cats, being more aggressive, take over the sterilized cats’ resources (shelter & food if any). If there is any kind of “vacuum effect” at all, it is that sterilizing cats cause non-sterilized cats to restore the reproductive void.

    FACT: During all this investigation I have discovered something that is unfaltering without fail. Something that you can bet your very life on and win every last time. That being — IF A TNR CAT-HOARDER IS TALKING THEN THEY ARE LYING. 100% guaranteed!

  3. You might also check into the birthplace of this TNR INSANITY.

    The UK has now driven their ONE AND ONLY *NATIVE* cat species to extinction with their invasive species domesticated cats.

    http://www.scottishwildcats.co.uk

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/sep/16/scottish-wildcat-extinction

    “A report, produced by the Scottish Wildcat Association, reviewed 2,000 records of camera trap recordings, eyewitness reports and road kills, and concluded there may be only about 40 wildcats left in Scotland in the wild today. ‘However you juggle the figures, it is hard to find anything positive,’ says Steve Piper, the association’s chairman. ‘The overwhelming evidence is that the wildcat is going to be extinct within months.'” … “However, it is not the loss of habitat that is causing the current cat crisis in the Cairngorms. It is the spread of the domestic cat.” … “‘Essentially the Highland wildcat is being eradicated by an alien invasive species: the domestic cat.'”

    Is this what you wish for your country too? To become the environmental-conservation laughingstocks of the whole world? Right alongside the UK?

  4. So … you’re not going to approve those comments so you can continue to wallow in your bliss of self-inflicted ignorance? Why am I not surprised. If you didn’t want the TRUTH about TNR, you shouldn’t have asked for it. You pathetically stupid self-serving animal-torturing MORONS.

    • Dear woodsman001

      I was working on your original comment when your latest one came in! I am going to publish everything sent in on the subject as long as it does not contain profanities. Your original comment contained much useful information but it is unfortunate that you chose to be so rude as it doesn’t help putting your case across and probably only serves to make the walls between pro TNR and anti TNR even higher. I have not decided if TNR is the right way to go but some of your FACTS help to give a more balanced debate.

      Please don’t see all animal welfare people and organisations as the enemy, most of us are just trying to do what we think is best, I gather from your comments that you have had 1st hand problems with feral cats perhaps you could explain what happened.

      I will continue to research the problem but apart from Trap and Euthanasia which as you say does not resolve the problem what do you see as the long term solution?

      Regards

      Paul Svendsen

      • Yes I had first-hand experience with this problem. FIFTEEN YEARS of nightmares of dealing with cat-lickers who kept releasing cats onto my lands and doing NOTHING to stop it.

        I already posted the solution in the above list of “facts”, but since you want a more direct/complete answer, I’ll post that lengthy explanation.

  5. Licensing and laws do nothing to curb the problem. If cats are required to be licensed then cat-lovers just stop putting collars on their cats, as they did by me. And they won’t even bother getting them micro-chipped, especially not that They want absolutely nothing that can hold them legally responsible, liable, and accountable for the actions of their cats. It’s why many of them even keep cats in the first place. We’re not talking about the topmost responsible citizens of the world, you know. They don’t want that responsibility of what their cat has done coming back on them. If they had even one iota of a sense of responsibility and respect for all other lives on this planet we wouldn’t even be having these discussions.

    On the other hand, I found something that DOES work, and works well, and works fast (well, relative to the years it takes trying to reason with deceitful and lying cat-lovers that accomplishes ABSOLUTELY NOTHING). Where I live cat-lovers have learned that _ALL_ cats, stray and feral, collared or not, ear-tipped or not (because TNR con-artist liars now just clip cats’ ears only, WITHOUT sterilizing or vaccinating them, to protect their hoarded cats from being trapped and euthanized, yes, I have absolute proof of this), _ALL_ their cats are humanely shot on sight and buried whenever found away from supervised confinement.

    The ONLY thing that works is destroying any of their cats found away from supervised confinement. They either learn to stop getting more cats that die under the wheels of cars or from animal attacks, or they finally learn how to be a responsible pet owner, respectful neighbor, and learn to keep their invasive species animal under confined supervision, as it should be. Win win win all around. You can either destroy their cat for them humanely, or let their lack of concern for their cat cause it to die inhumanely. By destroying their cat for them humanely you are showing them that you care more about their cat than even they do. A bullet is by far the most humane death that any free-roaming cat will ever meet. Anything else is all inhumanely downhill from there. Their only other options are being hit by cars, environmental poisons, cat & animal attacks, disease and parasites, freezing, etc., etc.

    You can’t train a cat to stay home but I found that, in time, you CAN train a cat-owner into being a responsible pet-owner and a respectable neighbor. Most of them are so phenomenally stupid, disrespectful, and criminally irresponsible though that you have to make at least 12-15 of their cats permanently disappear before they even start to figure out what they’ve been doing wrong all during their sorry, useless, and pathetic lives. (Though the ones by me who were adopting “barn cats” from “barn-cat programs” were uniquely cretinized and lobotomized. I had to shoot and bury many hundreds of their cats before they started to learn.)

    If you live in an area where its not legal to use firearms to destroy any animal that is threatening the health and safety of you, your family, your animals, or property (as it *IS* legal in most every area of the nation — shoot to maim is animal cruelty but shoot to kill is a perfectly legal way to humanely destroy any nuisance animal on your own property); then check into laws regarding air-rifles with ballistics speeds of 700-1200 fps and using pointed vermin-pellets in no-firearms zones. Many of the newer ones even come with their own sound-suppressor designs built-in, being specifically designed for shooting vermin cats in urban areas, the demand is that great. Failing that, then there’s always the SSS and TDSS Cat Management Programs that are exploding in popularity worldwide. Shoot, Shovel, & Shut-Up; or Trap, Drown, Shovel, & Shut-Up. Both methods are legal on every square foot of this earth. No local laws were violated if it never happened.

    (Where cats have already learned to evade all trapping methods, then inexpensive generic 1-adult-strength acetaminophen (overseas a.k.a. paracetamol) pain-relievers are a more species specific vermin poison, available everywhere for pennies. MUCH safer for the environment and all other animals than the antifreeze and rat-poisons that cat-lickers have forced everyone into using. But you really do need to retrieve and dispose of that carcass safely so that native wildlife won’t die from the many diseases cats spread even after their death. I fed a shot-dead cat to some starving opossum once, starving from cats having destroyed all their foods. (2 adults and 3 offspring they had while under my care.) Those opossum then died from some disease in that cat. Leaving ANY cat, alive OR dead, out in nature is no better than intentionally poisoning your native wildlife to death. Cats truly are complete wastes of flesh, they can’t even be used to feed wild animals safely.)

    I don’t see anyone dumping cats where I live anymore. They don’t even adopt more than can be kept under lock & key 24/7. When driving through the area I don’t see even one cat on anyone’s doorsteps anymore. I always keep an eye out to see if there are more free-roaming cats that will have to be shot one day. And if I’ll have to leave fish-oil trails on all the roadsides again, leading right to my IR surveillance system and laser-sighted rifle. (Got more than 70% of the hundreds of them in the area this way. VERY effective if you have criminally irresponsible and criminally negligent cat-licking problem neighbors where you live too. For further methods that I invented, to accomplish an eradication so complete, read my Reader’s Digest compilation of the more-effective ones at americanhunter.org/blogs/arkansas-will-trap-feral-cats )

    I haven’t seen even ONE cat in nearly FOUR YEARS now!

    Leaving ANY of their invasive species cats outside in my area means certain death for that cat, their further existence can be counted in hours. You’d think everyone else could learn from this simple lesson. The quickest way to solve an unwanted animal and irresponsible pet-owner problem is to let everyone know that you will quickly and humanely destroy every last one of their unwanted, uncared-for, or unsupervised animals for them. They either grow up fast or, far more plausible, dump their animals elsewhere to become someone else’s problem.

    You just can’t be an enabler of criminally irresponsible spineless and heartless idiots — or they remain that way. (At least where you live, anyway.)

    IF THERE ARE NOT DIRECT AND IMMEDIATE IRREVERSIBLE CONSEQUENCES TO THEIR CRIMINALLY-NEGLIGENT AND CRIMINALLY-IRRESPONSIBLE BEHAVIORS AND VALUES THEN THEY LEARN ABSOLUTELY *NOTHING*.

    • Thanks for your reply woodsman001, you certainly put your side of the argument forward although I don’t agree with your methods. As I already said I have some doubt about TNR, I live in rural Spain and my concern with this is that it does not tackle the root of the problem which seem tom me to be the owners who breed irresponsibly in the first place. Unfortunately in Spain it is considered macho to leave your cats and dogs entire and let them roam and breed. You have the same problem in many Southern European countries. Without legislation and effective enforcement I don’t see how a genuine long term solution can be found!

      • woodsman001 said:

        “Macho” has nothing to do with it. I found the crux of the problem long ago. It is neither a male nor female thing, it is a human/animal thing.

        Some important information to help you understand “cat-lovers”. Something I discovered when “cat-lovers” (an oxymoronic label if there ever was one) were using cats to overtake my lands, eventually even by moving my property markers when using their cats had failed — failed because I got the legal go-ahead to shoot their cats. (An expensive many $1000s lesson for these property-thieves, surveyors are not cheap.) I often wondered why they kept releasing new cats onto my lands even long AFTER they already knew that all their cats were being shot to death, they were told this is what was going to happen, and was happening. Clearly something else was motivating these people. How many do you know that keep releasing cats after seeing many of them become road-kill, harmed by cat and animal attacks, die of diseases, killed by environmental poisons, etc.? (Like every last TNR (trap, neuter, re-abandon) advocate for starters.) They don’t care about cats, not in the least!

        “Human Territorial Behavior By Expendable Proxy”

        I have come to the inexorable conclusion that “cat-lovers” and cat-owners letting destructive invasive-species roam free, and those that defend the rights of cats to overtake private and public property and wildlife areas, are only (cowardly) using cats as a proxy for their OWN territorial behavior. Like inner-city youth that will disrespectfully and inconsiderately use loud music to stake-out territory for themselves. Whether this behavior is done consciously or subconsciously the underlying motive is the same. As long as they can have one of their cats defecate in another’s yard or destroy their property, animals, and wildlife; and the land-owner not have any recourse; the cat-owner/caretaker owns that territory. It’s time to put a stop to them using their “cute kitty” excuse for usurping and stealing others’ property. If they want territory they can buy it like anyone else. Instead they’re using underhanded and manipulative means–putting (and sacrificing) live animals in the path of their envy and greed. “Cat-lovers” only really want your yard, garden, or forest while making all others and all other animals suffer for what they can’t have. Bottom line–they want to control you and your property. That’s _ALL_ that “cat-lovers” are really after. It’s why they don’t care at all if their cat nor any other animals, nor even other humans, get harmed by their goals and (lack of) values in life.

        Google for: Loews Hotels Feral Cats

        Another replay of what these cat-licking sociopaths do, Google for: Cats Venice Complex Reprieve

        A $150 million renovation project for low-income housing, put on hold, jobs lost, money lost, homeless still homeless, court costs and lawyers, just to save a few of their feral vermin c-Rats. And the saddest part of all, the vast majority of these TNR’ed cats had already died heinous inhumane deaths from TNR-practitioners’ “death by attrition” mantra. (Road-kill, diseases, parasites, injuries, environmental poisons, cat and animal attacks, exposure, etc. etc. Their all-encompassing feel-good blinders-on term of “death by attrition”.)

        Similar scenarios can be found by Googling for feral cats and churches, universities, hospitals, shopping centers, malls, apartment complexes, etc., etc. Cat-lickers delusionally believe that any land on which a cat has stepped-foot is their own property and they can manipulate and control the owners and all laws on it.

        This is precisely why everyone is learning to destroy all cats on their properties as quickly and quietly as possible. Telling nobody beforehand about any cats even being there. Long before these psychotic cat-licker sociopaths and psychopaths get wind of the cats. Shoot cats first — tell no-one later. The only thing worse than feral cats are feral cat-lickers. You can legally shoot the former, not the latter. You need to pay lawyers and courts to get rid of the latter. THEN you can get rid of their cats. And the sad part is, that’s EXACTLY what happens, each and every time. People are wising-up. If ANY cats are around they destroy every last one of them first, before they make any other move.

        They can’t be stopped from their behavior. They psychotically believe they are doing “god’s work” for themselves. Destroying their cats for them is the ONLY solution.

      • In case you are curious — the term that I use of “cat licker” is justifiably and accurately gleaned from the growing fad of people who are obsessed with cats and want to do everything possible to make their cats feel good, as naturally as possible, at the expense of all that is reasonable and sane.

        They are now licking their cats clean.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9xmiOxsTWg

        Since they see a cat fighting back from being washed in water as animal abuse, but the cat not fighting if they use their tongues, they use their tongues instead to wash their cats.

        It’s just another one of the many aberrant and mentally-ill behaviors of “cat lickers”.

        I cannot, in all honesty, EVER use the term “cat lover” again to describe these heartless and spineless cretins. People who love cats do not throw them under the wheels of moving cars, let them lap-up antifreeze in a gutter, force them to attack one another to fight for territory (no different than people who run dog-fight rings and are just as criminal of animal abuse), or let them be attacked by other animals by letting them roam free. “Cat Lover” is an extremely oxymoronic label. “Cat Licker” is the only one that accurately works today.

      • Thanks for your further insights into cat lovers, I don’t however think that you present a fair or balanced argument, it seems that your experiences have colored your judgement and you now regard anyone who cares about cats as being some kind of demon! Like everything in life there are good and bad people and there are people who perhaps do bad things with good intent, we are non of us perfect I guess including you!

        OK you have solved your local cat problem by shooting hundreds of them and you are advocating that approach for the rest of the World.

        Whilst as I said I agree with some of your views regarding TNR many organisations do this with absolutely the best intentions, unfortunately it is often the actions of the few who bring criticism on the rest. If cats were being bred to be trapped neutered and released your arguments may hold water but the fact is that the cats were already there! the process tries to address the problem by preventing them from breeding in the future.

        Your justification for the term “cat lickers” also showed how biased you are, what this woman does in no way represents the average cat caring person and to suggest it does is not supportable by any facts

        As I said I don’t think TNR will work here anyway as the problem lies with those who let domesticated animals wander and breed indiscriminately, whilst this continued TNR can only try and control the results and I don’t think it can do that here.

        I could go on arguing with you woodsman001 but you are obviously happy with your views and you are certainly not going to change mine or I suspect many of the readers of this blog.

  6. Tina Marie said:

    Woodsman sounds like he just hates cats. There are some valid claims in what he has provided but it’s hard to get past the hostility to care what he has to say. On top of that, some of the claims he makes, he over-exaggerates or is just plain incorrect about. I won’t address them all because any responsible person would research these claims and not depend solely on a response to a blog article anyway. I will address a few, however.

    First, the program, in most cases should probably be referred to as TNVR. The V stands for the vaccinations that many of these programs provide. Rabies is among those vaccines. While it is true that cats can spread the plague and incidents have occurred recently, it is very rare and they contract it from interacting with rodents. Toxoplasmosis, while it is spread by cats, is spread to cats though rodents, birds, and other small animals. It is also spread by under-cooked meat, especially pork, venison, and lamb. As far as cats spreading diseases go, this is certainly true, but you can also get additional diseases by breathing in dust that contains rodent urine and feces. Compare that to the fecal/oral spread of the majority of what you can get from cats and I would rather keep the cats around. Any good TNR program is going to address reduction in the spread of rabies and the rest is a call for the same precautionary measures that you should take when dealing with humans as well. That is, wash you hands frequently and cook your food thoroughly.

    Second, while I am seriously skeptical as to how much truth is contained in that story about the opossum, if it were true, considering they are omnivores and eat a large variety of things, I seriously doubt the cats were starving the possums out. Also, opossums have amazing immune systems but they carry parasites, fleas, and they produce a significant amount of feces. You can get some of the same diseases from possums as you can rodents. My point is that to qualify disease as an argument, you’d have to prove that the risk is less without the cats around. Moreover, you’d have to prove that it is something that is unique to the cat or adopt the same practices for other species that carry zoonotic diseases. Horses carry a disease that kills about 30% of the people it infects. In regards to the assertion that the possum died from eating the cat…prove it. You have no way of knowing the reason why the opossum died. Until you have scientific proof, it’s a coincidence.

    Regarding the TNR programs being effective, I don’t think that there is one program that is going to completely solve the population issue. It requires a multi-focal approach that includes educating the public and creating stricter spay/neuter laws and stiffer penalties for violating those laws. People complain about the cost but I wonder how many of them realize how much it costs to trap them, house them, then euthanize them. That is on top of the cost to operate the shelter and staff it. Should TNR be the only form of population control? No, but it should be considered a valid option to use in conjunction with other methods.

    I know that’s not very brief but that’s my short answer.

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